The K-11-7-4 saga, written by local author Josephine Winter, details a slave’s misadventures on a space train. Designed to have serious moments without taking itself too seriously, this 8-part tale has an origin story of its own. Winter tells us all about it on this week’s episode of The Winterpeg Report. You can also read about Mark Adam’s first encounter with the author at Winnipeg ComicCon in his previous article.
Author and Creator Josephine Winter joins the podcast today to discuss her 8-book sci-fi series of books, her writing process, and some of her other passions and projects. She’s a local author with a ton of talent.
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Ep 012 – w/ guest Josephine Winters
Mark Adam: Hello, everyone. Welcome back to The Winterpeg Report. I am your host, Mark Adam. I am going to be joined by a very special guest today. Josephine Winter. Author, creator, general all around creative person. And we’re going to get into that in just a minute, but first I want to remind you, you can follow us on all the socials, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, YouTube.
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Josephine Winter: Thank you for having me,
Mark Adam: I’m so glad that you could be here. And,I, we’re going to talk about your books and the, yes. That’s with an S I know she looks too young to have published multiple books, but she did. So why don’t we get right into it, shall we? The first, yeah, the first thing we want to talk about is this, the series that I met you for was K dash 11 dash seven dash four.
Josephine Winter: Yes.
Mark Adam: you just say K 11 7 4?
Josephine Winter: Yes.
Mark Adam: Yeah. Much easier. That the dashes are unnecessary. So you that’s what you actually created that series. That is your own. So
Josephine Winter: absolutely. 100% original.
Mark Adam: that’s, and that’s amazing. And you can find it on Amazon, the K-11-7-4 series. And we’re going to get more into that.
I want to ask you questions about that, but first let’s let’s rewind. Let’s do the pre-qual here. How did you get into writing in the first place?
Josephine Winter: Okay. originally I actually hated writing. Growing up in school. I never did great in English or art or anything like that. I don’t know. So it just turned me off of it. Wasn’t a fun thing for me. And then around eighth grade I met a friend who was writing and she was like, you should write too. And because you do things that your friends want to do so that you can stay friends with them in that time of life, I decided to try it. And my first story was absolutely atrocious. It does not exist anymore. I definitely threw that one out. But the following year end meeting, who is now my best friend, and she really encouraged me to write what I wanted to write and just have fun with it. And that’s when I really started getting into fantasy specifically. And from there, it just grew. And I started enjoying it and having fun and I’ve always been more creative. My siblings and I, we grew up always using our imaginations, playing games, reenacting fairytales, and just all around being creative. We didn’t really have a lot of technology. Like we didn’t have any Nintendo or video games or that sort of thing, so we had to use our imagination to have fun. It was a lot of dress up and yeah. Just making, do with what we had available. So
So you mentioned you did a lot of pretend and playing around and imagination stuff. Do you play Dungeons and Dragons? Like I, I know you cosplay cause I’ve seen you do it.
Josephine Winter: I have not actually. I think I did one time, my best friend, she was doing dungeon mastering for a group of friends of quite a while back. And I sat in on one meeting. And so I haven’t really done it since. It’s something that I would love to get into, but I want to find a group of noobs like me so that we should start together and learn together.
And I wouldn’t feel like a total moron for not knowing anything.
Mark Adam: a little less, less what’s the word? Intimidating.
Josephine Winter: Yeah, exactly.
Mark Adam: Yeah. so you started as a fantasy writer and then sci-fi happened. What? Cause the series K 11, 7, 4. I’m going to let you explain it so that I don’t provide any spoilers or any press that you don’t want about it. But what I would like to know is, and I think a was solid question that people are going to ask is how did you go from being like I’m a fantasy person to publishing Saifai how did that transition.
Josephine Winter: Yeah. it’s important to know that the Caleb at seven four is a fantasy scifi by crossover. So it has a lot of fantasy elements in it. It just happens to take place in a more scientifically advanced worlds. but the worlds itself are created based on how I do fantasy, but the the whole premise of the story came about because I was at work, and one of the guys working there was like, tell me a story about space trains. And then walked away and I was like, I don’t do sci-fi so I don’t know. I don’t know. And I just started thinking and I got an idea and it was something that I was like, this is a prequel to a much larger story. So when he asked me later on, where’s my story.
And I was like, you’re going to wait a while because it’s going to be a book. And it originally was one book I have before, completely written as a standalone. And I thought I could do more with this. How about I split it into eight parts and make eight individual novels? So that’s what happens?
Mark Adam: And now, of the eight, there’s three currently available, FYI, you can go to her website, winterwrites.net, and the information is there about where to get those three first three books. Do you want to give a super quick synopsis without any spoilers? Maybe? I don’t know. Can you do that with the second and third book?
Because it would spoil things from the first book.
maybe not so much. I don’t, I think I can do without spoiling it, but the whole thing is K-11-7-4 his growing up in a world where he is from a group of people called the Hy-mun. And they’ve been enslaved by a group of people called the Altera. And it’s been just over 620 years since the last war take place that this all happened.
Josephine Winter: And K-11-7-4 is now growing up as a slave, wanting freedom, and he tends to be a troublemaker. Not only in just attracting trouble, but stirring it up, creating it. And so he, it’s all of his misadventures really, and how he is seen as a hero because he just dives in to do things to protect people, but he himself just feels like he’s a complete idiot.
And he plays off of that. It’s his strongest character trait as he often says. And yeah, it books two and three are part of the process of him trying to find an escape, trying to find a way to free his people, his Hy-mun people, and how they can work together to try and bring peace.
And see, I relate to the part where he said being an idiot is his strongest trait. Most days I feel very much the same. That kind of tracks for me and that, that sort of hits home a little bit. And so A lot of fun.
Mark Adam: there’s five books that are left unpublished at this time in this series alone.
So obviously the plan coming up is to finish that, get those eight books out and then all of the encores that your fans are going to want. let’s call it 15 books by the end. No, I’m just kidding. I. I say that as a person who has zero idea how hard that is to do, how much work that is to do.
There’s a lot of things where I can explain to people just how hard it is to do the things I’m doing. That’s not one of them. I don’t relate on that level. How hard is it to go and basically go from nothing to ideas, to published work. What is, what does that process even like? Cause you self published as well.
Josephine Winter: Yeah. Yeah. So it’s definitely a long process, for me, cause every author you talk to will have a different process. Like we have follow some similar things, but everyone has a way that they do it that’s unique to them, that works for how they function. So for me, when I first started writing, I would just what we call, just pantsing it.
So I would just fly by the seat of my pants and right off the top of my head. No plot, no, just no outline. It’s just going.
Mark Adam: How I live my life. Go ahead. Go ahead. I got you. Yeah.
Josephine Winter: And I found that I am a type of person who loves all the background stuff. So, every time I came up to a question or something that didn’t quite fit, I was like, oh, I can go back and work on all the background information and dive into the world and do world building.
And that kind of. then I have all this new stuff and be like, oh, now I have to edit it into what I already wrote, because now things are different. And so I would edit and I’d get a little bit further and there’d be a new problem. Oh, I can go back and world build again. And I got stuck in that cycle.
So for me, I found that having a completed outline, from beginning to end, is what helps me actually get a project finished. So my first draft, I write, following my outline. I don’t look back. I don’t touch the chapters that I previously wrote that can come in round two. And so once I have the first round, then there’s several rounds of editing, getting other people involved, asking them for help finding mistakes, because once you’ve read something 5,000 times, you don’t catch anything off anymore.
Mark Adam: Yeah.
Josephine Winter: You’re far too close.
Mark Adam: Then in crafting this whole thing, and it comes as no surprise to most people that a lot of authors use pen names. how did you choose yours? I don’t want to out you and real name drop you, that’s up to you. But how did you come up with, cause it’s such a, it’s like a nice flowy name, right? Josephine,
Josephine Winter: A fair question. I had written a book previously in 2015 under different pen name, and it was honestly a little bit juvenile, I think. So I wanted to rebrand a little bit. Josephine is actually my middle name, so that’s what I went with for this pen name. And then winter was a nickname while I was living in Korea for awhile, because I’m from Canada, everyone just called me winter because I didn’t get cold in winter because it was nothing like winter’s here, especially in winterpeg.
yeah, so I just became Josephine Winter. I thought it flowed really nicely and yeah, I liked it.
Mark Adam: Can we jump back? You lived in Korea for awhile? Like how did that happen?
Josephine Winter: Yeah. I lived there for almost two years. I was intending to take a year off and then spend a few months in Korea and then spend the rest of the year just traveling around to different countries. But I ended up finding some, something that I really enjoyed while I was in Korea and I stayed, ended up teaching English for a little bit and yeah.
Then COVID hit and I came back home, but.
Mark Adam: Oh, fair enough. Okay. So COVID is what drove you home? that’s so crazy that you just, and you took a year off from writing, from life, from school, from…? From life, just a full-on sabbatical.
Josephine Winter: Yeah, I tend to get bored fairly easily when I’m in one place for too long. Now that I think I’m maturing a little bit, so it’s not quite as bad these days, but I went through a time of life where I just got bored really easily, especially with living in Manitoba. And so I kept traveling and going and living other places.
Like I lived in Japan for a little bit, I lived in BC for a little bit, and I lived in Korea for a little bit,
Mark Adam: And you say a little bit, it’s not you’re like, oh, it’s just a little bit, you were there for two years. It’s you don’t look old enough for that to be a little bit. Do you know what I mean? I can see you’re not this 60 year old lady. Who’s I lived my life and you’re not it’s you’re you’re too young to say a little bit and mean years in a place.
So when you say a little bit, you were
Josephine Winter: My back tells me otherwise.
Mark Adam: Yeah,there is a certain age, your back just decides we don’t care how old you are. You’re just old. Now I get it. I hit that a decade ago. That’s fine.
With writing and doing art and everything hunched over it, it also plays a part.
Mark Adam: I, this, and I’m going to show you, this is my, this is my world. This is where I live. And I know it’s a mess, but like I spent all of my time staring at all these screens and usually I have more screens, but, it’s just been a day, but I totally get that whole hunched kinda duh, sedimentary sitting at a keyboard kind of thing.
it’s a little rough. yeah. So when you say you lived in Japan for a little bit, how long was that?
The longest I was in Japan was for three months.
Mark Adam: Okay,
Josephine Winter: not two years.
Mark Adam: See, and I would call that a little bit where, but you’re, I lived in Korea for a little bit. You lived there for two years. That’s a significant chunk of time, right?
Josephine Winter: It didn’t feel very long. It definitely didn’t feel long enough.
Mark Adam: Yeah. That’s fair. Would you go back?
Josephine Winter: I would like to go back and visit, cause I have lots of friends there now, but I don’t know if I’d go back for a long term.
Mark Adam: Fair enough.
Josephine Winter: Been there, done that.
Mark Adam: Right? Okay. So you just
Josephine Winter: I want to try other places.
Mark Adam: Check right. Korea, check. Letting you know, done it. so you could probably take Japan off that list. I think British Columbia is off the list. Winnipeg should have been off the list to begin with, but here you are.
Josephine Winter: Oh yeah. A long time ago.
Mark Adam: Yeah, but this is where we are. And Josephine Winterpeg, see, this is The Winterpeg Report.
Josephine Winter: Yeah. See, it just worked out. It wasn’t meant to be.
Mark Adam: It all flies. It all flies. So do you, your title, you give yourself as author and creator, so what do you do outside of writing that you love to do and create?
Josephine Winter: Yeah. I’ve been working on a few things to, besides writing. I do enjoy art. I’m trying to draw more. I have, unfortunately I have cousins who are amazing talent in artistry. Like I, she wants a painter and one is amazing at like anime. And so I. standard. That’s oh man, I’m never going to reach that, but I still try my best to, delve into art and that kind of stuff too.
So I want to eventually try digital arts. I’m trying to create different merchandise type products as well.
Mark Adam: you see this that’s? Why is that so dark? no, I can’t get the screen to light up. Okay. So this is it’s linked Sora,
Josephine Winter: Yeah.
Mark Adam: right? So this is, it’s a business card. I promise there’s information on it. I don’t know why it looks so black on the. But there is information on there, but that’s, this is who we were talking about that does the anime.
Josephine Winter: exactly what I’m talking about.
And having the card in my hand, I could say that I met this individual. they had no interest in speaking to me and I was really trying not to have, take that personal.
Josephine Winter: She’s quite shy, but some people are,
Mark Adam: Yeah. That’s just how it is. And. Unlike that individual are not shy. And I was very lucky enough to speak to you at women Winnipeg Comic-Con where not only did I speak to you, but you were dressed in the cosplay of the KLM and seven, four character, which I thought was very cool.
Josephine Winter: Yeah, I think that definitely played a part in, me being able to meet people at comic con cause without the costume, I think I would have gone mostly unnoticed.
Mark Adam: there was, listen, I went around and looked and tried to talk to as many people as possible, but that was why I was there. That was my purpose. but dressing and cause plague gets a lot of people stopping thinking, what is this? And your cosplay? And I don’t mean this as an insult. Cause it looked your cosplay looked very cool.
And I’m sure it was very accurate to your book as you are the creator. But when I first saw it not knowing your IP, I thought that it was something out of a mass effect. Actually. I thought you were one of the mass effect characters, I had a few people ask me if I was black widow.
That’s okay. Fair enough. And thinking back, I totally get that.
I don’t have a photo of that. If you go back
Josephine Winter: Like the costume probably wouldn’t be 100% accurate because I don’t really have the money to be able to afford a completely 100% accurate costume at this point in time in my life. But it was what I could put together in two weeks.
And, I’m just sorry. I’m distracted. I’m cause I’m trying to bring up the photo if I,
Josephine Winter: if you could find it.
Mark Adam: yeah. It’s one of those. I have a photo of you in your cosplay from that day.
Josephine Winter: Yeah. Yeah, you didn’t take one.
Mark Adam: And yeah. So anyway, continuing on, if I find it, I’ll bring it up. I don’t want to get us stuck on this, especially since a lot of people are listening to the audio podcast and going you are as whole, but I will, for the people listening, I will include on the WPG. I’d say when I post the. To the site. I will include that photo as part of the bonus content there on that page.
as we generally have a little bonus content area for stuff we referenced, I’ll put links to her books where you can buy them, that kind of stuff. So that’ll all go there. And for those that are listening to the audio podcast and for those watching this, if I don’t happen to find it here, then absolutely
Josephine Winter: will still be available.
Mark Adam: yeah.
And how did you find Comicon? Because there was like, just such a huge depth to the types of people that were there. How did you find it for what you were doing? What did you get a lot of engagement? Did you get less than you hoped? Did you get more than you thought were, where did you land on that?
Josephine Winter: yeah, it’s it was my first time actually being a vendor. I’d come a con actually my first time, really doing comic con at all. I had previous. Many years ago into an icon, but that’s about as most as I’ve experienced in that world. So this was my first time really experiencing Comicon and being a vendor in it for me, where we were situated, I felt like people triangled around us because across from us, there was a snack.
Next to us, there was an artist and the other side was, an author who was a bit more well known cause she’s been doing this for a lot longer. And so people triangled around us and for me and my cousin as well, it was a good thing. We had costumes at our tables that was what helped draw people to us.
I didn’t feel like I had done very well in the moment, but then after talking to some of the other vendors and getting. their feedback on how they thought it went in comparison to other Comicons and what their first comic cons were like as well. they said that we actually had done quite well, so that, that lifted my spirits.
Josephine Winter: I felt pretty good about that, I’m going to hang on. I’m sorry. I did find it. So I’m bringing it up and I will do that. Nope. I that’s not working. Oh my goodness. I’m having all the technical issues. I promise this will work. Hang on, give it, give me. Bam. There it is. So now you can see it. And it’s the little blurb that, that was your, the paragraph I put in there for having met you in the much larger Comicon article, which you can go firstname.lastname@example.org that just search for the word Comicon.
Mark Adam: It should, it’s a big, bright, yellow picture will come up. That’s the one you click, but then this young lady right here dressed in her cosplay. showing off her really cool books and you had other stuff on the table there as well. And I made sure to keep your super shy family member out of this. so
yeah, super shy, which is totally fine. It goes against everything I believe in, but. I agree. I just understand that those people exist in the world and that’s where we’re at. So anyway, that’s, I thought that was a very cool to meet you and especially meet you in cosplay where you were it just, if I, it helped me really connect to your IP a lot more and made you a lot more interesting, which is actually one of the reasons why I was like, I have to have this lady on my podcast.
I have to like interesting people in Winnipeg or the entire point of this podcast. And that if that doesn’t fit the bill, then what are we even doing here?
Josephine Winter: Yeah. I’m hoping to do a better costume at this next comic con. So if you’re going to be there.
Mark Adam: I’ll be there. I’ll be there a hundred percent, but I really thought the idea of, you’re mainly a fantasy person and he said, talking is a huge inspiration for you. and then you write a story about space trains, and I’ve just thought what a crazy way that, that happened and
Josephine Winter: Oh, I’m turning events.
But it works right. Yeah. Somehow it’s working out for now. I really want to get back into the fantasy game though. So I have other projects that are on the back burner right now, but I’m still working on them. So once this theory is completed, then more high fantasy will become.
Mark Adam: Right,
Josephine Winter: For sure.
Mark Adam: Yeah. Yeah. And the higher are you going to nevermind. Not a question I want to ask on here. I, sometimes this joke enters my head and I have to think, where am I? It’s not a comedy club. Okay. My audience is there could potentially be kids, swearing, by the way. I don’t care. I don’t care about that, but yeah, there’s certain subject matter possibly needs to be filtered through there. And that’s what happened. That’s why, I don’t know if you noticed on my face, but I had a, like a mini-stroke.
Josephine Winter: Yeah. Yeah. I saw there was like a block that came up and it was like, oh wait, rewind. Okay.
Mark Adam: yeah. don’t say the thing, but now everybody probably can put together where I was going with that. I’m sorry, and you’re welcome simultaneously. That’s said that’s, this is go back to what you do.
So more drawing. do you want to do that on more of a professional level? Is that sort of something you want to get to so you can, bolster your
Josephine Winter: I don’t know yet exactly what I want to do with it. I mainly am doing it for myself. Like I said, briefly mentioned, I want to create more merch. So like at Comicon, I want to have my books there, but I also want to have other options. So I want to have maybe some mugs, maybe a t-shirt. I have my bookmarks that I’ve made maybe some notebooks, maybe some like postcard sized prints of characters, that sort of thing.
Mark Adam: That’s very cool. I really, I took to your character just because of the absurdity of when I was talking to you and you’re just like, this guy said space trains, but then I don’t know if I’m going to get you in trouble, but you had told me that you had actually potentially misheard the instructions from your coworkers.
Josephine Winter: Yeah. Apparently he said several years later than he had in fact said space dragon.
Mark Adam: Which is a completely different thing.
So different. I’m like, if you had said space dragons, I would have been all over that idea, instead of me being, and this is like the stupidest thing ever. you say that, but there’s you have an eight book series coming out about
just that.I say that every time, like I said, a dumb idea, but I love it so much.
So are you at some point potentially going to pay some royalties for the original idea? I’m just kidding. You don’t have to do that. I’m
I gave him book one for free as a gift as a thank you. I was like, here you go. You wanted your story.
Mark Adam: As long as that individual accepted, I’m sure you’re covered legally, somehow. Anyway. yeah, but Ithe entire story just comes out of your brain and I’m really impressed with the quality, your self for self-publishing is a hard thing to do I feel and get the traction that you really need, but people can buy your book on Amazon.
Are there any other places? Cause when you click the link on your website, It just
Josephine Winter: It goes to Amazon. Yeah. Yeah. Right now it’s right now. Right now. It’s just Amazon. For people who are closer in, in my area of Steinbeck, then I have like friends and family who’ve just bought them directly from me. But that’s it for now?
Mark Adam: right. Sounds good. I was just curious because I don’t want to miss any spots, but again,
Josephine Winter: Yeah, no, absolutely.
Mark Adam: if you go to her website, winterwrites.net. The link is right there. Very easy. It’s a very simple website to, to navigate. You also have a blog on there, which I thought was neat.
Josephine Winter: I do.
Mark Adam: And so is that to inform your potential readers?
Is that your own creative outlet?
Josephine Winter: Yeah. It’s more of a creative outlet. So, I have some short stories on there. I have just some big granite and poetry on there. K-11-7-4, my main character. He has his own little blog portion of it as well. Mainly he just, bash talks me. We have a great relationship, so yeah, it’s all, it’s just a bunch of random, trying to try different writing styles. So different genres as well. a lot of fantasy, but I’ve had some other like dark fantasies, some more horror ish type short stories as well that are on there. So yeah.
And there’s, it’s a very cool website. I’m going to bring it up here so you can actually see. For those, this is the website it’s very simple and like elegant and easy to use. And it just has that, just simplicity to it that, I’ve got books, I’ve got this and this, I like that. too many people, especially who are trying to do their own, what is it called?
Mark Adam: Their own publishing their own publicity, their own marketing, all that kind of stuff. I think too many people try to do too much and try and make things. And everything’s your, their website is so busy and it takes away from what the whole point is, which is you’re your art, right?
Josephine Winter: Yeah. I find, especially for like indie authors, it’s easy to get caught up in what is all out there on social media. And you’re just trying to meet the expectation of as many people as possible. And so you throw as much into it. Cause you’re thinking the more I have, the more people will see, the more people will come, and then you just get caught up in all the busy-ness of it.
And I created mine, looking at other authors websites and seeing what I liked and I like the simple look. so that’s how mine came about. I do want to do a little bit of. Website renovation. I’ve been working on creating a new logo. That’s a little bit more fantasy esque. And I think shows who I want to be as an author a bit better.
So that’s going to be coming hopefully soon, but yeah, it’ll still say simple cause I do like white bright, keep it clean, easy to find stuff.
I don’t want people to be like fighting to find information.
Mark Adam: Minimalistic is functional. I got it. A hundred percent. Yeah, I really liked the artwork. It’s simple. And who did your artwork
On like on my
Mark Adam: on the books? The book covers is bigs. Sorry. I should’ve been more specific.
My best friend actually did for me, she took a graphic design course. So I got her to help me out as part of her training as well. And this is the DM friend. The one who has dungeon master for okay.
Josephine Winter: Yes,
Mark Adam: I try to keep it all
Josephine Winter: She’s also an author too, so like we bounce ideas off each other, we write together.
Mark Adam: Are you allowed to plug her name or is she going to be
Josephine Winter: Absolutely. Absolutely. I can. her author name is Sharaiah Kells.
Mark Adam: Shariah Kells?
Josephine Winter: Yeah.
Mark Adam: Yep. That I was going to put that on the screen, but I’m not going to even guess at the spelling of that.
Josephine Winter: Yeah. So she does have one book published right now, A Cold Fire by Shariah Kells. It’s also available on Amazon. she’s working on other stuff as well. Doing her graphic designing. She also does chain mail. she’s pretty cool.
Mark Adam: Sorry, does chain mail? You mean makes chain mail?
Josephine Winter: She, yeah, she makes chain mail.
Mark Adam: Okay. That’s
Josephine Winter: Yeah. She’s pretty bad ass.
Mark Adam: That’s pretty dope. Actually. I’m not gonna lie. That’s pretty cool. All right. That’s what’s not expecting that. That was a nice little curve ball at the end. That’s very cool. I like that. And you say you bounce ideas off. Is there any chance that you guys are going to do some collaboration work in the future?
Josephine Winter: Yeah, we definitely write together. we have a book that we’ve been working on for 10 years. We want to finish it eventually because we love it so much. It just, she lives in Ontario and I’ve been traveling around the world, so we haven’t been able to sit down and get a lot accomplished in that field, but we’re trying to be more deliberate about it this year. So we’re trying to meet more often, too.
Mark Adam: To have to go spend a little bit of time in Toronto check. and then you just have it, be done.
If we could get past the, all ridiculousness that comes from us being together, most of the time we ended up putting our characters in the most random scenarios, and then we don’t end up writing because we were having way too much fun. What if situations, and then we’re like, oh, maybe we should actually have written something today, instead of just talked about this random thing that will never happen.
Mark Adam: I have a partner like that as well. We’ll get together and we have these ideas of either we’re going to do some work together or we’re just going to body double and he’s going to work on his stuff and I’ll work on that. But inevitably, especially towards the end of our sessions, it just devolves into oh the craziest thing happened, and filling each other in on all this stuff.
Like I, a hundred percent get it. He’s probably even watching right now. It is what it is, but,
Josephine Winter: Yeah.
I totally get it. Sometimes it just, you just get sidetracked and as a person with ADHD, I live my entire life that way. So I get it. You also have a Patrion. What do you, what kind of stuff can people expect if they go support your Patrion?
Josephine Winter: Patrion. It’s something that I’m still working on and trying to figure out what I want to niche on it. And I’m trying to keep it more visual. So I’m, I have art on there. I try to keep like snippets of stories and stuff on there. I know Patrion people prefer images rather than stuff to read. So I tried to focus on more of my art side on there, but I’m trying to take this year to create some new stuff, so that next year I have more stuff to post. Right now I’m in between projects, so I don’t have a lot of material, unfortunately.
That’s what unemployed people say. I’m between opportunities at the moment, during COVID everyone has said that Yeah. Yeah. 100%. I think I’ve been in between art projects for the last few years though.
and that’s the length of COVID coincidentally, and that’s a good question. And without getting into the politics, we’re just not going there. did the pandemic affect your work, other than forcing you to come home and change your entire life? So I guess that really starts the answer for you because you came, you had to come back from Korea and all this, but did it affect you in your art and your writing, and how did you adjust to it?
Josephine Winter: Great. I don’t think it really affected me too terribly much, mainly because I had been so busy while I was in Korea. Just traveling. Hanging out with friends, teaching English, doing all those things that I didn’t really have as much time for writing. So coming back, I finally had time again. So my, my COVID experience, it’s more just, I finally had time to actually finish some writing products and,it allowed me an opportunity to go to Comic-Con.
If I had stayed in Korea, obviously I would never have gone. I guess in a way it opened new opportunities for me and helps me to refocus myself on writing again.
that’s your main thing, right? that’s your main
Josephine Winter: Yeah.
Mark Adam: Do you, I know a lot of writers who write in their spare time, and are quite successful at it, but also maintain regular nine to five type jobs. Are you one of those people that have a hidden real life?
Josephine Winter: I have a real life as well. Yes. I don’t work a full-time job, but I do work a halftime job. So I work one week full-time hours and then I get a week off. And so like I switched back and forth.
Mark Adam: Oh, right on. And do you get to do that from home or do you have to go into an office to do that?
Josephine Winter: No, I go into an office. Yeah.
Mark Adam: Wow. Okay. That’s just sounds like a big nope for me right now. Having been home, working from home since, since the start of the pandemic, basically I don’t know if I could do that.
Josephine Winter: I mean, It’s fair. Obviously, staying home is really nice, but I like having just a different environment to mix things up so that when I come home on my off weeks, I’m more grateful for it, and then I can have had that headspace at oh, I have time now I can actually do writing.
If I’m working a full-time job, then I’m like, Ugh, but it’s always a long day and I’m tired, and I don’t feel like being creative, I’m just going to vent and watch anime.
Mark Adam: Makes sense. I.
Josephine Winter: Yeah.
Mark Adam: Yeah, you’re not going to get any judgment from me. I a hundred percent, I given the opportunity I, and I work from home. So I have this weird relationship, because I come to the downstairs in my basement here and I have my office all set up and I just do my work and I truck along.
But when I’m done working, I’m basically just go upstairs. And my whole life is there. And sometimes my life bleeds downstairs. The kids, I have two kids, they come downstairs, they’re asking me stuff, not during recording sessions, such as this. They know, and I try and schedule them so that they’re not home.
Currently, as we record this, my, my kids are at school and I don’t have to worry about them coming in and interrupting and being loud and just that kind of thing. but even when I’m not, they just come down and it’s, there’s no separation. So I totally understand that point of view of, I get to go to the office, it’s a new place. It’s a place where your brain is ready to do whatever that work happens to be. I’m assuming it’s not writing.
Josephine Winter: And there are so many authors who work full-time and then write full-time as well. And like, all the more power to them, because that’s incredible. I wish I could be that, that dedicated. I’m working on it.
Mark Adam: That’s it sounds like you really have to have your poop in a group. I just don’t. I just don’t.
Josephine Winter: Right. Some days this just doesn’t happen.
No. with the two kids and all this other stuff, I’m lucky I can have that personal time and all the work stuff I have to do. Cause I, I also, I work remotely for a company, I work for myself, I have the whole WPG and all that, and there’s and I do other stuff on the side and I, but I do basically all of it from sitting in this exact same chair.
Mark Adam: And so it’s hard for me to get my brain into, okay, what am I working on now? Because all of my windows have, all of my screens have different stuff on them, depending on what I’m doing. So it’s chaos. And I imagine that it’s probably a lot simpler to just leave, go to a different space. And that’s where you’re going to do this task and you come back and that’s dedicated for these tasks.
That’d be a lot easier.
Josephine Winter: Yeah.
Mark Adam: Makes sense.
Josephine Winter: Yeah, and separation definitely does help. I recently, I had everything actually condensed into my bedroom for the longest time. cause I still live at home, but, with some of my siblings having moved out, I decided to take over another space in the house. And now I have a dedicated writing room that separate, so I can go to a different area and keep everything compartmentalized and.
Mark Adam: Organized and really nice like that. Have you found that helps you?
Josephine Winter: So far I’ve gotten some stuff done. It’s still barely very new. I don’t get nearly as cold though because my bedroom is in the basement. so having my office space upstairs with a south facing window helps for me to not feel like an ice cube while I’m trying to write.
Mark Adam: Yeah, I don’t, I guess I could see a window way over there. But all the windows in the basement are about this big. So
Josephine Winter: Okay. Yeah.
I’ve got curtains and stuff set up. I have to control because I’m in a studio style environment. I have to keep my environment very much self-contained and all of the lights in here are very purposeful,because I also run a green screen, a lot of people it’s funny cause people don’t notice that it’s a green screen when I go to my full screen, people don’t notice I just think that’s really cute. That people don’t know that it’s cause I’ve who’s got this on their wall who just no one, it’s not a real plant. It’s just a curtain.
Josephine Winter: It looks cool. it looks really good. I could tell that it wasn’t real.
Mark Adam: Yeah, I’m giving away all my trade secrets, but like it’s, that’s why I have to have the lighting very controlled, which is great when I’m doing that kind of work.
But when I’m not, it’s just, it’s a weird space to do office type work in. So when I’m doing my remote work, which is project management and things like that, it’s really odd that I’m sitting in basically what is a recording studio, but I’m doing office type work. it’s hard to get my head around that.
What is next for you, by the way? Because first of all, how long do you think it’s going to be till we get the entire K-11-7-4 series published, complete, out there?
Josephine Winter: Yeah. my, my plan and hope is to have books four and five published in this year. And so six, seven, and eight. I’m not sure if they’ll all be able to come out in 2023, but for sure, by 2024, all the books should be out and available. After that it’s more fantasy focused books. I’m working on a high fantasy standalone novel right now, which has been really fun.
And I can’t wait to finish that one and get that one out there. It’s like my new love.
So that’ll be the next project. Yeah.
Mark Adam: Excellent. I’m looking forward to the next project. And what other types of things do you want to write? Long-term thinking like way down the road?
Josephine Winter: Yeah, way down the road. but I do have a fantasy trilogy that I it’s written, it’s completed. But it needs another few rounds of editing before it’s good enough to be published anywhere. So that is definitely a project that I want to have completed at some point with that one. I also have ideas for a prequel trilogy to go along with it.
So those ones have not been written. That will be far future project. And then I have a binder full of ideas of stories, plus 30 other ones on my computer at all times. And I haven’t chosen which ones will be coming up next because I might just start new ideas instead of ones that I already had written down. We’ll see what happens.
it’s insane to me. The amount of works that you have already completed and set aside. And it just, it feels like there isn’t enough hours in the day to have made that a thing. That seems like a lot of work.
Josephine Winter: Sometime. Yeah. and I’m trying to also do more short stories as well. So I have stuff to put on my. And to submit to other publishing places like anthologies and magazines and those kinds of things. I’m only just starting to get into doing that. Yeah, I’m trying to try and trying to keep up with writing short stories with those, some fairy tale rewrites, that would be more experimented with others genres.
I have a list of stories that I want to write all in different genres, just to try my hand at them and see what I like, what I don’t like, what I’m good at, what I’m just awful at. And yeah. So I just want to experiment a lot.
Mark Adam: I, I try really hard not to find stuff that I’m really terrible at, but I just keep finding it. It’s terrible. But people can also find you on Instagram. What type of stuff are you sharing to the Instagram? Why? Like, why would someone follow you? Because you have some it’s very visually very interesting, I think.
Josephine Winter: Yeah, visually. I’m again, I’m still trying to figure out what my niche is going to be on Instagram, but I’ve tried to focus on my writing and my art. So there’s a lot of, oh, a book promo. There’s a character sketches that I’ve done. There’s random other art that I’ve done. There’s selfies, there’s interest. Probably my dog. I’m probably gonna be pictures of my plants because I’m starting a collection now. Yeah, my life as an author and all the random things that I do and who I am is mainly what gets put on Instagram. People always tell me that it should only be like one thing and it should be focused on something specific, but I like I’m too many things, I’m not just one.
Mark Adam: Don’t put me in a box.
Josephine Winter: Oh, no boxes.
Mark Adam: Yeah. I noticed I, and I’m going to geek out a little, I noticed you have a thing on your Instagram. You have a drawing of Which Queen. Is that Destiny 2 connect.
That was actually from another artist at Comic-Con that I picked up. So even the ones behind me on my walls, those are artworks that I picked up at comic con from the other artists around me. So that’s me supporting other local creators and their stuff because I believe that we should really support each other and help each other out because we’re all new, we’re all just trying to find our way in the world. Being creative is not easy.
Mark Adam: Alright, I was just curious if it was connected to the Destiny 2. the giant expansion, for those that play Destiny on Xbox, playStation, whatever, the giant expansion that just came out a couple of weeks ago, it was called the witch queen. So I was just curious if it was inspired by anyway, you did not draw it.
Josephine Winter: I wouldn’t know. I didn’t.
And who’s got time to read all these captions there’s so so much cool stuff here. go to her Instagram. It’s JWinter, or I should say at, is that the thing @jwinter_author, and that’s her Instagram. Lots of really cool stuff there to check out, and if you go to winterwrites.net, the link to her Instagram, Facebook, and I believe Twitter are at the bottom of your site.
Mark Adam: Yes.
Josephine Winter: Yes, they are.
Mark Adam: Yeah. So connect with her on all the socials, connect with us on all the socials, connect with everybody on all the socials.
Josephine Winter: Connect with everybody.
Connect with everybody. So the cosplay you’re working on for this Comicon, any hints or you just going to say it’s better than the last one?
Josephine Winter: It’s definitely getting better than the last one.
It’s gonna be another character also from the books.
Mark Adam: Ah,
Josephine Winter: But, yeah, it’s not gonna be, Kayla was in for this time. I’m going to try to portray a different character this year. one of the girls I met at Comic-Con, she’s actually going to be designing and creating the costume for me.
She’s already agreed, so we’re going to work on a little bit of a business partnership there as well. So I’m really looking forward to that. Yeah. It’s going to be, it’s going to be cool.
Mark Adam: Have you considered the idea, as a person, I subscribed to audible. I am always on the go and there’s so many books. I wouldn’t be able to read if it weren’t for audible and audio books. Have you considered creating an audio book out of your projects, or is that something that you’re against?
Josephine Winter: Oh, definitely not against it. I would love to do audio book at some point in the future. I’m not sure yet exactly how I want to go about that. Whether I want to do the reading myself or if I want to get someone else to do it for me, I don’t know what kind of time I have, but I’ve had so many people asking me if my books are going to become audio books, because they don’t like reading, but they really want to support me in my work.
And so it will come eventually, I just don’t know when.
Mark Adam: I love your stuff, but I’m not all about that reading. No. I get it. Yeah.
Josephine Winter: I don’t like reading, but I like stories. Can you just tell me.
Mark Adam: Tell me the story. Yeah. About space.
Josephine Winter: Yeah.
Mark Adam: Yeah. So
Josephine Winter: Well, dragons do come out and it, that is something that I promised him. I would add since he changed.
Mark Adam: I, is it a spoiler to tell us which book that, that happens in?
Josephine Winter: I will not tell you which book it happens in, but the dragon thing, the dragon theme kind of comes throughout at different levels. So, you have to read it to find out when did it comes out officially.
Mark Adam: Fair enough. I will do that. I will read that and figure that out. I’m excited. So there’s more of this. And then there’s a fantasy trilogy that you’ve got in the, on the back burner. Do you want to, are you, do you want to give a synopsis about that or do you want to just leave it at that for now?
I think I’ll just look at that for now because it needs a lot of revamping and it’ll be awhile before it comes out.
Mark Adam: Fair enough. So you don’t want to give anybody a taste of something they can’t have. I get it. No teasers. Got it. Gotta plot that out on, on your tours. Now, have you had anybody at this point, reach out to you and be like, I love your books that you didn’t already know that kind of went out of their way to reach out to you?
Not so much yet. I’m, it’s, I’m still in the mostly family and friends outreach at the moment. I’ve had obviously no, since doing Comicon and I sat in, at a craft sale as well with my books. So, I’ve had new people come and purchase from me, who I didn’t know before, which has, which is really awesome.
Josephine Winter: So now I know at least that there are some people who are not within my friends and family catalog that have copies of my books. I’m hoping that eventually, someday I’ll get to hear someone that I don’t know, reach out and say that they love what I do. Likely I’ll probably have someone reach out and say that they really didn’t like it because that’s what being a creator is.
I’m trying to try to build up my skin so that it’s big enough for when that happens. There are all these plot holes, I really didn’t like it in the characters were dumb, and I didn’t really get any of them. I’m sorry.
Mark Adam: Don’t you be? Sorry. That’s not your job to be sorry. That’s their job. They should be sorry, and feel sorry, just
Josephine Winter: I’m sorry. You can understand.
Mark Adam: You all you can do is put it out there, people will either get it or they won’t.
Josephine Winter: Yeah.
Mark Adam: I don’t know why it is about the internet in particular, but people go to the internet when they’re upset and they want to complain about something, but they certainly are less likely to go to the internet and say nice things.
Josephine Winter: It’s true.
Mark Adam: Unless this, unless they’re already doing, if they’re reading your book on them EPUB or whatever, because you have a Kindle Edition.
Uh, so by the way, you can get the Kindle edition and it’s three, three or four bucks. Like, it’s completely affordable. Go buy it, go buy it, buy the hard hardcover by the hardcover. And then you only have the paperbacks at the moment, right?
Josephine Winter: I would like to eventually have all eight of them once they’re completed in like a standalone hardcover anthology with all eight of them in there. But,
Mark Adam: that’d
Josephine Winter: sweet.
That’s once the whole series is completed.
Mark Adam: That’s that’d be sweet. I want to thank you for joining us here. This was great. I got to know you and our audience got to know you a little bit. Go check out these books. I’m. I’m telling you. Local people doing really cool stuff deserve to be supported. They just do winterwrites.net.
Josephine Winter: And when we say like winter writes, W R I T E S okay. Very simple. Winterwrites.net, go there. All the info about those books and her blog and links to her Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, all of it is there. So just go there, connect with her. Awesome stuff from Josephine winter author right here, I’m going to say Winnipeg, even though Steinbeck is that’s Yeah.
Mark Adam: close enough. Let’s call it Winnipeg.
It’s fine. You were at Winnipeg Comic-Con, that’s Winnipeg enough for me. So I want to remind everyone, you can follow us on all those social medias, The WPG Magazine on all of them.
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Josephine Winter: Thanks for having me.
Mark Adam: Well, it was our pleasure, and I really hope the best in the future.
Looking for those other five of your eight books. Then we have to look for the three,what’s the word? Fantasy is the word. I don’t know why that escaped my brain for a second. But the three fantasy books in her trilogy, and then onward and upward from there. Follow this lady, Josephine Winter, winterwrites.net.
Josephine Winter: Thank you.
Mark Adam: See you next time on The Winterpeg Report.